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19 August 2013 @ 10:38 pm
PSA: Sexy Zone only has 3 members  
Seriously, Johnny's?!

I've tried to write this off as marketing, tried to tell myself similar things have happened to older groups like V6 and Arashi, tried to believe it will pass, but seriously, enough is enough. We get it, Johnny's. The other two are young. They can't do as much. They have early curfews. They're not as mature. But does that really mean you have to hem them out, like they're completely unnecessary?!

For heaven's sake, Marius is 13. Sou is 15. That's not an age where you need someone telling you you're unnecessary. They're talented kids, and they work hard. I know they can't do everything that the older three can do, but you're not even giving them a chance.

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Yeah, I know, I was trying not to be upset, but I gave up. Sometimes Johnny's pushes me to this point.
 
 
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Rethachiinakayama_haruna on August 19th, 2013 02:00 pm (UTC)
seriously?

ah, I like the the group they are numbered 5 person -__-

gomenasai fr my bad English :3
ミランダ (大丈夫): Marius: onoesfaded_lace on August 19th, 2013 02:03 pm (UTC)
Me too. There are five members, so Johnny's needs to stop ignoring two of them.
(no subject) - nakayama_haruna on August 19th, 2013 02:39 pm (UTC) (Expand)
S: Marius: cutieyomimashou on August 19th, 2013 02:16 pm (UTC)
Ugh Johnny's why >____< I just really hope Marius and Sou aren't too sad ;;; Poor babies ;____;
ミランダ (大丈夫): Marius: onoesfaded_lace on August 19th, 2013 02:24 pm (UTC)
I just really don't understand. There's pushing your frontmen to a point, but this is utterly ridiculous. I don't like to compare, but even Kisumai really isn't this bad.
(no subject) - yomimashou on August 20th, 2013 12:19 am (UTC) (Expand)
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teukie_koji07teukie_koji07 on August 19th, 2013 02:45 pm (UTC)
i like the group with 5 members.
marius and sou doesn't look like a kid.
marius is taller than shori >///<.
ミランダ (大丈夫): Fuma: hmmfaded_lace on August 19th, 2013 11:41 pm (UTC)
I don't know how much it is to do with "looking" like kids and more to do with legalities and Johnny's rules and their school schedules. Sou lives in Shizuoka, which is at least an hour away by shinkansen, possible more, and Marius is only thirteen. Sixteen seems to be Johnny's cutoff for being allowed to work past 7 pm, and legally, children must be 18 years old to work past 9 pm. Still, there are things where this should make a difference (live performances on TV shows that are late at night) and things that it shouldn't impact (recording and photoshoots for CDs that could happen at any time of day). I don't understand why it's become such a big marketing strategy to cut the other two out.
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rorychanrorychan on August 19th, 2013 03:36 pm (UTC)
I seriously don't get it. I mean...weirdly enough, both Marius and Sou look older than Shori now. And Soun is only 1 year younger than Shori so I really don't think that is the reason they are doing this. It's just a typical split with probably not much of a reason behind it.

But in November, Sou has the same curfew as the older three members so maybe he will get to show up more at least.
ミランダ (大丈夫): Marius: onoesfaded_lace on August 19th, 2013 11:46 pm (UTC)
Yeah, one of the things that really gets me is that Sou is closer in age to Shori than he is to Marius. And they both have a lot of fans if my students and the people I see at concerts are any indication, so I really just don't get it. I know if must be a marketing strategy, but it seems a little extreme to me, even for Johnny's. At the handshake event in January, they went so far as to introduce Kento, Fuma, and Shori as "Sexy Zone" and Marius and Sou were introduced separately as "Sexy Boyz" equal to Jinguji, Genki, Amu, and Reia (who were the Sexy Boyz-of-the-day back then). Like, they didn't introduce them as members of both. They didn't even introduce them differently than the juniors. Marius and Sou might as well not have been debuted according to that announcement.

I'm curious but also worried. I don't know if it's likely that they'll single one member out. 3:2 with the 3 as the frontmen is always a weird breakdown, and 4:1 seems almost unthinkable as a measure that will have to continue for three whole years until Marius is 16. It will seem even more meaningless if Sou is of age for the Johnny's curfew and yet still is kicked off just because Marius is too young.
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Ami Zaidaphantomthief94 on August 19th, 2013 03:52 pm (UTC)
it's not only you who feel that way. I think many of JE fans esp. Sexy Zone fans too. i'm really disappointed to Johnny-san for forming this group :'(
ミランダ (大丈夫): Marius: onoesfaded_lace on August 19th, 2013 11:47 pm (UTC)
Well, it's not like I want Sexy Zone to go away forever?? I'm still their fan. I'm just upset at the way they're treating Marius and Sou.
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Gabrielekimiwatarget on August 19th, 2013 04:15 pm (UTC)
I'd understand if Sexy Zone was unsuccessful and they had to change their marketing strategies, but they got famous pretty fast and sold a lot from the start. Specially about Mari-chan, I see his fans everywhere and risk to say he's one of the most popular members. I feel very sad for seeing my ichi and Sou being excluded without any logical reason. By the way, I've read somewhere that many fans had canceled their pre-orders of the last single to show their dissatisfaction, so why do Johnny's still put them aside? This is nonsense.
ミランダ (大丈夫): Fuma: hmmfaded_lace on August 20th, 2013 12:03 am (UTC)
I got the strong feeling of Johnny's "backtracking" around the time that Sexy Boyz was created. Before that, Sexy Zone had seemed a lot more equilateral, but around that time, it seemed like the management started making the split a lot more apparent. When I went to the Sexy Zone handshake event back in January, they introduced Kento, Fuma, and Shori as "Sexy Zone" and Marius and Sou as "Sexy Boyz" just the same as Jinguji, Genki, Amu, and Reia (who were the Sexy-Boyz-of-the day at that time). They didn't say Marius and Sou were members of both, only Sexy Boyz, and they didn't differentiate at all between them and the juniors. In essence, from that, they might as well not have been debuted at all. I have to assume that part of the problem started when it became clear that Sou wasn't going to go to Horikoshi? If Johnny's had assumed he'd have more free time in high school than he actually does, that might have made them panic and change their marketing strategy. It's clear that Marius doesn't really care about school in comparison to showbiz (he took a half-year break from school in Germany and came temporarily to Japan to become a junior back in 2010), but if Sou is tied to Shizuoka, over an hour away from Tokyo, then they might not have know what to do. I actually have no idea, but that's my best theory, since the five seem to have a pretty equal breakdown of fans (my students all don't like Marius and make fun of me for being his fan, but they all think Sou is really sexy, so idek XD).

As for the preorder sales, I heard that rumour too, but I don't really believe it. Real Sexy!/Bad Boys sold better than any other Sexy Zone single and its sales even did better than Yamapi's Ke • Sera • Sera (Real Sexy!/Bad Boys sold 139,000 copies in its first week, while Ke • Sera • Sera only sold 97,000). If fans did cancel their orders, I really doubt anyone in Johnny's management would even have noticed, not to mention attributed it to the 3/2 split.
Neko-Bot: Bad Boys Jnekobot01 on August 19th, 2013 05:24 pm (UTC)
Aw... poor Marius and So. :(

It makes you wonder WHY they debuted the group with two young members like that in the first place but I suppose JE would say ours is not to question why. :PP

Are they trying to cultivate an actual "sexy" persona for the older 3 that wouldn't fit the younger 2, do you think? Princely outfits are fine for a 15 year old but you don't want him singing about being a Bad Boy, you know? But if that was the case, then maybe they should just split the older three into a subunit? Although the brand recognition... ah... JE painted themselves into a corner with this one.
rorychanrorychan on August 19th, 2013 07:16 pm (UTC)
The only problem with that theory is Sou is barely 1 year younger than Shori. So I don't think being "young" is the issue.
(no subject) - faded_lace on August 20th, 2013 12:20 am (UTC) (Expand)
(ΦωΦ)nekosogi on August 19th, 2013 05:58 pm (UTC)
What's the point of even having them debut into the group if you're going to push them aside like that? Geez... .-. Poor Mari and Sou. You get attached to them so easily, too. ;~;
ミランダ (大丈夫): Marius: onoesfaded_lace on August 20th, 2013 12:25 am (UTC)
I feel exactly the same way. ;____; I love all the members but Marius is my favourite, so especially seeing him get pushed aside (after he freaking emigrated from Germany just to join Johnny's) really makes me sad.
dancingdogz123dancingdogz123 on August 19th, 2013 08:02 pm (UTC)
totally agree!!! that's not the age that you should tell someone they're not good enough. I'm sure marius and sou want to be out on stage but they don't let them. it hurts to see the main 3 always on stage or in different outfits :( :(
ミランダ (大丈夫): Fuma: hmmfaded_lace on August 20th, 2013 12:25 am (UTC)
Exactly. It makes me really sad to think about how this must be affecting them. ;__;
DesyEpriladesyeprila on August 20th, 2013 02:24 am (UTC)
i feel... so sad! Really!
aaaa sexy zone is meant to be 5 boys, not 3 :(
ミランダ (大丈夫): Marius: onoesfaded_lace on August 20th, 2013 02:26 am (UTC)
Yeah, it's really upsetting. ;___;