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07 October 2014 @ 12:42 pm
horrifying news.  
Some variation on this news has been both on morning shows like Zip and on various news sites, so I figured I may as well translate it and share it here. This is the one from the Oricon site, but most of them on the news sites are similar, anyway.

【オリコン】Sexy Zone, “new structure” song is number 1, their seventh straight number 1 single since debut
Johnny's group Sexy Zone's 7th single,"otoko never give up,"(which came out on October 1st)has sold 125,000 copies in the first week, and appears as number 1 for the 10/13 weekly single ranking. Starting with their debut single, "Sexy Zone," this 7th single continues their record of all of their singles being chart-toppers.

Sexy Zone, which has been 5 members up until now, will have a fresh start from this single on as a group who, with Nakajima Kento (20), Kikuchi Fuma (19), and Sato Shori (17) as the central members, will do activities with members sometimes added in fluid manner. On the first single of this new structure, besides the title song, there are members solos, and so on.

Source: Oricon News

At this point, I don't really know what to say. Maybe it's just more hype, or maybe it's true. Either way, I think it's pretty safe to say (as I pretty much knew all along), Johnny's management are liars and they're tugging us around about Sexy Zone. On the phone, their statement was that there would never be another single after this with only 3, and this news seems to be implying that most singles from now on will be 3. One of the two statements is a lie. They are mutually exclusive.

Please keep your comments on this post civil, and if your opinion is "good riddance, Marius and Sou suck!" please keep that to yourself. I have been emotionally and mentally torn up over the past week because of this single, and though I want to help out by translating and sharing news, I cannot deal with antagonism right now. Also, I apologize if my response is slow; I'm having trouble with my home internet, among other things, and I may not be able to get back to comments immediately.

[Edit] By the way, the 125,000 quoted in the article seems to be their sales up until today. I don't know what this is about 10/13, because their weekly ranking will be today (10/6 in Oricon time), and their first weekly ranking hasn't even happened yet.

Either way, 125,000 is a lower total first week sales number than Real Sexy, Baibai Dubai, or King & Queen & Joker, making otoko never give up the worst selling single in all of 2014 and 2013 so far.
Current Mood: crushedcrushed
Current Music: Sexy Zone//Namae no Nai Omoi
arisu_chan25arisu_chan25 on October 7th, 2014 12:47 am (UTC)
well that's really stupid...why the hell would you debut them with 5 members in the first place then?? this is really lame. but we'll see what happens, since Sexy Zone are back together as 5 in the newest magazines, so let's hope this "fresh start" thing is a lie.
ミランダ (大丈夫): Keito: picturesquefaded_lace on October 7th, 2014 02:23 am (UTC)
I don't even know. I have to assume that it's because the old man debuted them but now Ijima has control. Either way, I really hope this is a lie, but it's not the truth that they've been together as 5 in all the newest magazines. They're divided in Potato, and they were divided in Popolo, and they weren't in the same photoshoot for Myojo, either (I haven't seen Winkup or Duet yet because they come out today in Japan). Things definitely aren't fixed, so I hope that this isn't a sign that they're only going to get worse.
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chynnawitchchynnawitch on October 7th, 2014 12:50 am (UTC)
OMG, noooo T_____T
ミランダ (大丈夫): Kitayama: introspectivefaded_lace on October 7th, 2014 02:24 am (UTC)
That's about how I feel.
S: Marius: cutieyomimashou on October 7th, 2014 02:22 am (UTC)
Ugh. The not knowing is one of the worst parts about this, and the fact that we can't trust anything Johnny's says. Beyond it being awful and unprecedented to do this to the guys, I just don't understand why they would decide to do something like that.

But if nothing else, I am glad that ongu didn't outsell any of the recent singles.

And I hope your internet gets fixed soon ;___;

Edited at 2014-10-07 06:22 am (UTC)
ミランダ (大丈夫): Sou: seriousfaded_lace on October 7th, 2014 02:25 am (UTC)
Yeah, I don't really have anything to add to this, besides that no one is going to know or care that it didn't outsell the previous singles thanks to Johnny's.
talisa_ahntalisa_ahn on October 7th, 2014 04:06 am (UTC)
I'm not even in your fandom and I feel awful over what's happening with SZ right now. D: The Jimusho can be so STUPID. This doesn't benefit anyone. >:/
ミランダ (大丈夫): Sou: seriousfaded_lace on October 7th, 2014 06:47 am (UTC)
Thanks so much, that means a lot to me ;___; Hearing that people who aren't even in SZ fandom are sympathetic and think it's really fucked up helps, and yeah… I think we can all agree that this is totally stupid >__< It's hurting all five of the guys and it really doesn't benefit anyone ;___;
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beach_bum1303beach_bum1303 on October 7th, 2014 04:27 am (UTC)
I'm joining you in the emotionally devastated corner. Let me just sit here and cry. And I still have hope- maybe that's the worst part. Still having that lingering hope that it'll be normal again.

If it isn't by December I'm going to let my FC membership expire (can you join again if you do that..?) because I will not allow Johnny's to take my money and continue with this.
ミランダ (大丈夫): Tama: hopefulfaded_lace on October 7th, 2014 06:50 am (UTC)
Yeah, it got to me all day and I was trying not to cry at my desk at work… I'm really destroyed over this. I still have hope too-- honestly, this feels a lot like a really late excuse for what's been happening over the past couple years anyway, since Marius and Sou have already been part time members, but even if things just do stay the same, that's far from a good situation.

I'm totally at a loss as to what to do, honestly. At the matsuri, watching Marius and Sou, I kept thinking, I don't need KFS, I can't support 3-member Sexy Zone, but if Marius and Sou are caught in limbo, I'd feel terrible turning my back on them. I don't want to keep giving my money to think but I don't want to walk away when Sou and Marius need support, either… I just don't know.
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ミランダ (大丈夫): Chinen: wtffaded_lace on October 7th, 2014 07:09 am (UTC)
xanithofdragonsxanithofdragons on October 7th, 2014 09:45 am (UTC)
Ugh, on the one hand entertainment news totally exaggerates and wildly guesses what things will mean, but on the other hand Johnny's lies (sometimes by exaggerating to news sources) :/

I just really want to see 5-member Sexy Zone on Shokura and in magazines again. ;_;
ミランダ (大丈夫): Tama: hopefulfaded_lace on October 7th, 2014 11:23 am (UTC)
Yes to all of this >___< Johnny's is really just the worst sometimes in terms of how they treat their guys and fans.

Me too ;____; So badly.
britkit27: daiki hmmbritkit27 on October 9th, 2014 06:54 am (UTC)
Ugh, what a mess >< Fucking Johnnys.

I just... I keep hoping this will go the way of 2020 where everything in the press and everything was pointing towards full steam ahead when it abruptly vanished and hasn't been heard from since >> But yeah. Johnnys lies, and who knows if the press are just rehashing stuff from the announcement event or where they're getting it....

I really hope things get better soon >
ミランダ (大丈夫): Sou: seriousfaded_lace on October 9th, 2014 09:11 pm (UTC)
Yeah, my feeling is, this didn't come straight from Johnny's, and frankly, Marius and Sou have already been treated like that up until now, so I don't think that right now, we should react too over-dramatically. x__x; I'm just trying to stay calm for right now. Because otherwise it's too unbearable. x___x
Kapiru: Nakakenkapiru on October 11th, 2014 06:40 am (UTC)
Maybe it's despicable but I'm pretty happy that "Otoko never give up" is "the worst selling single in all of 2014 and 2013 so far."
At least they are not encouraged by their sales to continue with just the three of them.

I keep hope for the next one♥
ミランダ (大丈夫): Sou: seriousfaded_lace on October 13th, 2014 09:00 am (UTC)
It's not despicable at all. In my opinion, even Kento, Fuma, and Shori didn't want the single to do well. They looked miserable. I was happy to hear that it sold badly, too.

Well, the news so far isn't good, but let's keep hoping.